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Opinion submitted by Hal on 2010-03-09 08:36:11    (reads 400)

Out-of-Control Prius Stopped by Patrol Car

I've noticed this in the news, but truthfully have not been following the reports. I can see how someone could be 'caught off guard' by this and have an accident. What is puzzling me is why turning off the engine doesn't stop the problem? Does anyone know?
Comment submitted by annieokie on 2010-03-09 12:31:51
As I understand it, if you turn the engine off the brakes don't work.  You should
put it into neutral and brake.
Comment submitted by BULLET on 2010-03-09 12:58:51
MULTIPLE news reports are that the electronic acceleration module is controlling
all other systems.  A person CANNOT turn off the engine.  The braking system is
shut down.  One older woman was killed even though she had both feet on her
brake pedal and the emergency brake on and the ignition switch off.  The car
simply continued accelerating.  The paramedics found her with both feet shoved
onto her brake.  

THIS IS A MONUMENTAL PROBLEM.  Apparently Toyota has been covering up the
electronic problem for years.  Everyone was ignoring the situation across the
country, until a California highway patrol officer - trained to handle
emergencies - radioed in that the Lexus he was driving with his family had
accelerated to over 100 mph; he had absolutely no braking capacity; he could not
shut off the engine; and he had NO CONTROL over the car whatsoever.  His last
words to CHP dispatch were that they were entering an intersection against cross
traffic at 100 mph and God, help us.  

That started waking people up and AP did an investigative piece which has found
that at least 70 people have died as a result of uncontrolled acceleration.
Comment submitted by angel24 on 2010-03-09 15:23:05
This problem could happen to you no matter what kind of car you drive.  The only
logical thing to do would be to put the transmission in neutral.  And apply brakes
and emergency brake.  Then turn off ignition.  If the car still continues to
accelerate, look for something like a retaining wall to steer into at an angle, or
a steep enough hill to go up.  Try to avoid flipping the car over.  Maybe your seat
belt and air bags will save you if you have to crash.
Comment submitted by Hal on 2010-03-09 16:20:06
Isn't the new improved technology wonderful! 
 
Glad I don't have to put up with this insanity.

Reminds me of a Windows operating system.
Comment submitted by schultz on 2010-03-09 16:22:52
Look quickly for a Toyota dealership -- and aim for that.
Comment submitted by annieokie on 2010-03-09 19:19:49
I have a Hyundai Santa Fe and love it.  Safe and wonderful car.
Comment submitted by samiam on 2010-03-09 20:03:45
There's also a man serving life w/o parole for a crash he said took place when his
Toyota accelerated to near 100 mph and would not stop no matter how hard he applied
the brake and he crashed into a car killing 3 people inside. This happened several
years ago and he said then that there was something wrong with the car but was
convicted anyway.
Comment submitted by Sparrow on 2010-03-09 21:24:34
Good point, samiam.  I read that article and copied it because I have family who
own Toyotas and have been following this very closely.  The man's attorneys have
developed a very strong case for obtaining a new trial for him and to introduce
this new evidence.  The family of the people who were killed have joined the
defense in asking for a new trial.  They don't blame him, but blame the vehicle.
 It's going through the legal system now.  Maybe a new jury will believe the
EVIDENCE, not just they thought he wouldn't slow down.  Maybe he couldn't slow
down.  If he finds it possible to gain an acquittal, Toyota should pay FOR
STEALING HIS LIFE FROM HIM.  My family members would like to dump their Toyotas,
but their trade in price is in the toilet.
Comment submitted by Hal on 2010-03-10 07:52:17
I drive an electric car -- one that is categorized as a motorcycle by some
states.  Typically, motorcycles are required to have a 'kill-switch' and my car
has one.   All you have to do is hit the kill switch and all electric power and
therefore the electric motor is OFF.  On gasoline motorcycles the same occurs. 
 
In my electric car the switch is located under the drivers seat.   So why can't
a normal car have such a switch? 
 
If this can happen to a Toyota, then it can happen to any modern car which has a
similar design.  Maybe less likely due to some flaw, but the problem will still
be there.    
 
ALL cars should be required to be fitted with a kill switch that leaves braking
and steering intact.

In short, this is not just a Toyota problem but a industry one -- and a LACK
of proper Federal regulation one.
Comment submitted by Hal on 2010-03-11 07:03:43

Another runaway Toyota Prius reported

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